In regards to your other post. I'm more of a book person and don't like some things that the show did. I really liked Cat. Correct me if I'm wrong but Cat didn't have much time with her kids because she was prevented from it.. Robb was the only one she could be with. And I felt she had a major role with him to teach him how to rule though it wasn't said so much. She also parlayed with renely and warned him about the freys. And really annoyed Stoneheart wasn't shown
Cat not having much time with her kids is an authorial choice though, and one that could’ve been done differently. Right at the end of Arya’s first chapter Catelyn comes to discipline her. GRRM could not have given over a couple pages to the actual encounter between mother and daughter? It’s not important enough? Why, because it isn’t about how precious Jon Snow is and how precious Arya Stark is and how they’re so unique and precious together and how they’re so unique and different from the other Starks and how they’re such better Starks than the rest and how nobody understands their misunderstood souls and blah blah blah? Disney is applauded for making Brave but the dynamics between a mother like Catelyn and a daughter like Arya is … boring? Insignificant? Not germaine??! He really had an obvious chance right there. In Jon’s first chapter he could have included an exchange between Jon and Cat somewhere in that huge feasting hall, even had Jon observe Bran and Cat together so that, again, we could have these interactions in actual print.
The way it turns out, Cat only has Ned and Robb (and she argues with both and disagrees with both throughout the plot that are really big game-changers and make people hate her) and Sansa only has Ned and Arya (and she aruges with both and disagrees with both throughout the plot that are really big game-changers and make people hate her). Meanwhile? Bran so looks up to his big brother Robb and big brother Jon and oh isn’t Jon the best look he gave up his own puppy! Arya so looks up to her big brother Jon and daddy Ned and oh aren’t they the best they really understand how hard she has it being with those *shudder* typical women! Isn’t Ned such a great daddy look how understanding and gentle he is with Bran/Arya/Sansa!! Blah. blah. blah. This is not about how Cat the character should have done more to be with more of her children so that we can get scenes of her with them, she obviously did her best with really difficult circumstances. This is about how the author chooses how to frame and structure his narrative elements to support (or not support) various arcs, thus influencing how well those arcs “pop” for the generalized audience.
Cat did have political elements in her story, but things always went wrong, directly or indirectly. It’s inevitably going to contrast with narratives like Jon’s or Dany’s where narrative “wins” are so much more palpable and easily accessed. When you have things so obviously appealing to modern tastes like “Men of all classes are like chains in the same link! Look how much wiser than his elders Jon is!!!!”, nothing about a lot of that stuff was strictly vital to the plot, but it fleshes it out and makes Jon come off the way GRRM really really obviously wants him to. Personally I don’t like this obvious hero style of Jon’s narrative very much, but the fact that these extremes exist in the same book inevitably does a disservice to some of the characters who are written in a more difficult/sophisticated/what-have-you style.
Maybe Catelyn Stark should’ve been in a different fictional universe from Harry Potter.
I too am annoyed that Stoneheart isn’t in the HBO show. Too bad GRRM hasn’t made any future importance she might have clear, eh?
the female body is hardcore as fuck.
Yes it is.
so is the male body
it’s sad to see so many people like this on this website
OP is praising the fact that women hold a fucking infant in their belly the size of a ribcage, get the fuck over yourself for 3.5 seconds.
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The male body is more susceptible to hereditary diseases because of their lack of a second X chromosome. Their testosterone production ages them faster and causes them to die sooner. Their center of gravity is higher because of their tiny little hips and overgrown shoulders, making them easier to topple. Their gonads are placed outside of the body, in a very vulnerable position, because they do not function properly if they get a little bit warmer than usual. They have non-functional nipples, but still enough breast tissue to get cancer.
The male body is not hardcore. The male body is to the female body what a shoddy, unstable mod is to a well-estabilished piece of software. Sit the fuck down. And try to not crush your fragile pathetic outside gonads when you do it.
I find it really strange that when you’re in a long distance friendship or relationship all you want to do is see that person and being around them is the biggest most wonderful deal but there are people who interact with them
all the time, on the street and in the classroom and in the shops and it always makes me jealous because you want to be with this person so much and for everyone else they’re nothing special but for you they’re everything special